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Old Bamboo Rods: a primer for evaluation

 

 

March 2009

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Everett Garrison
Ed Payne
Jim Payne
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H.S. Pinky Gillum
Paul H.Young
Hiram Leonard
Charles Frederick Orvis
Hardy (UK)
EC Powell and Co
Walton Powell
Goodwin Granger
Walter Brunner
Heddon Fishing Rods
Vincent Marinaro
Pezon & Michel
Phillipson
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Fred Divine
Edward vom Hofe
Henry and Thomas Prichard
Thomas H. Chubb
Charles F. Murphy
Seely Edsall
Alonzo H. fowler
John Forrest kelso
Billy Edwards
Hiram Webster Hawes
Fred Thomas
Wes Jordan
Winston Fly Rods

The author with a Garrison rod

Now and then I receive enquiries about the value and/or origin of bamboo rods. So I created this page for people to start building an opinion on their own since I don't consider myself (yet) a specialist in the field but a simple apprentice. However, it must be said that apprasing an old bamboo rod is not easy neither for expert professionals since many variable are involved.

A recent (mainly USA oriented) forum* enquiry gave the following listing:

TOP TEN ALL TIME BEST BAMBOO RODS MANUFACTURERs:

  1. Payne
  2. Granger
  3. PH Young
  4. Leonard
  5. FE Thomas
  6. Orvis
  7. Heddon
  8. Thomas & Thomas
  9. RW Summers
  10. Edwards

 

So this give us a good starting point. Brands which are not included in this first list are considered of lesser quality. An example? For instance, Montague or H-I (Horrock-Ibbotson) are not well considered by collectors because they were produced in large quantities and not with high standards.

However, the listing above misses some important, if sometimes less productive, bamboo rod makers and companies such as:Hardy brothers, Pezon and Michel, Vincent Marinaro, Everett Garrison, H.S.Pinky Gillum, Powell, Dickerson, Winston, South Bend, Phillipson and E.W. Edwards.

Hoagy Carmichael with an old bamboo rod by Everett GarrisonYou will be surprised how many of old cane rods are reasonably low priced, ranging from 200 to 400 USD in average (also at important auction houses like Bonhams, I have seen Hardy rods selling for a mere 200 GBP).

However, depending on condition and rarity, it's not unsual to see Payne bamboo rods selling for $2000+. Notoriously, Gillum's, Garrison's and also Dickerson Rods are among the most expensive old bamboo rods on the market because their production was limited.

Hoagy Carmichael showed us, while in Sansepolcro, a Garrison rod in his collection. A very "electric" moment when we could hold it in our hands. (by the way, a Garriosn rod was reportedly sold for $12'000 at an auction!)

 

Concerning the value of a rod:

Value depends upon:

  1. Who made it (accredited authenticy)
  2. The condition of the rod
  3. Which model / rarity
  4. Desirability

Then, generally speaking another two general rules can be defined:

  • British old bamboo rods are less valued than US rods
  • Shorter rods are more valuable than longer rods

Everett Garrison Old BAmboo Rod DetailConcerning brands and makers, here is an ordered listing according to its cash value that I am trying to represent, Gillum and Garrison being the most expensive (look at a detail of a Garrison rod, the same one I am holding in the picture at the top of this webpage) , South Bend being the low-end.

The numbering is only indicative. I would say that the top 10 are certainly the best ones and that their values would often "blur" together. Each rod should hence be valued by other criteria as well (e.g. condition of the rod, model, rarity).

  1. Gillum
  2. Garrison
  3. Dickerson
  4. Payne
  5. Young
  6. Leonard
  7. Orvis
  8. Hardy (UK)
  9. Granger
  10. Heddon
  11. Pezon & Michel (F)
  12. Phillipson
  13. Farlow (UK)
  14. Odgson (UK)
  15. Shakespeare
  16. Montague
  17. Horrocks-Ibbotson,
  18. South Bend

Of course, as I said, this is only a personal attempt after reading about old bamboo rods and in any case the real value of a bamboo rod is set by the market and the moment.

And the value of an old bamboo rod is not only made by its intrinsic value but often by the rarity of the rods which have reached our days. So, both Garrison's, Harold "Pinky" Gillum's, Lile Lynde Dickerson's rod all made very few rods (Everett Garrison made about 650 pieces in his life, and about 25 at most per year) and so their value for collectors is higher, generally speaking.

To further extend one's knowledge, you can read some sensible suggestions by Rolf Baginski when buying and old bamboo rod.

Finally, one word is due to those Japanese two-pieces cane rods made during the '40s and that many US soldiers brought back home. They are made without splitting the bamboo, so it's really "bamboo" rods from the plant. Their value is only about 5$.

CONCLUSIONS:

Most vintage bamboo rods are not so valuable and reach a few hundreds dollars at auctions because there were made in the thousands for the mass market (and their quality was rather average or low).

Leonards, Orvis rods of the early period, then bamboo rods of the master rod makers of the, 1920s, 1930s - 1960s period like Garrison, Dickerson, Gillum, Payne etc.. are of another category and can reach prices of $1000 - $2000 with some really high prices for Gillum's, Dickerson's, Garrison's rods (up to $20'000 estimated value for a Gillum in 1988). Unique and very rare pieces are then again in another category...and price.

*http://clarksclassicflyrodforum.yuku.com

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Hiram Leonard

•Old fishing reels

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•Collecting Hardy Rods and Reels

 


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